School-Shootings?

[PeerPressure]

You can say what you want Peerpressure, giving stats that kids die sooner in traffic , and terroristic attacks happen more often.
But these School-Shootings are worst then a traffic accident if you ask me.

If a parent loses his kid in traffic accident they say:
'Oh my god , why did it happen to my kid'
If a parent loses his kid in a school-shooting they say :
'Why did that stupid kid went crazy and shot all those kids , he sucks , why did he do it, why it was on my kid's school , he's a maniac, he sucks ...

I think school shootings ar far more chaotic in the memories of the people that survived and the parents of the kids that died..

This is pure speculation on your part and it doesn't even stand up to the mildest scrutiny. In a traffic accident there will be someone to blame just like in a shooting.

+ in Europe , Terroristic attacks are rare (let's hope it stays that way) but school shootings are coming closer to home I have to admit ..

I guess the rarity of terrorist attacks depends on how you define "terrorist attacks", but even in the strictest of definitions the Madrid and London bombings would be included. In Madrid 191 people were killed, in London 56. Compare those numbers to the 37 people killed in school shootings in the last years and there's no way you can maintain that the risk of school shootings is higher than the risk of terrorism.

That's just where it's about.. They are fighting terrorism to get it to low chances of getting involved in it like the chance of getting involved in astroids ''atacks''..

I was talking about the initial odds. How effective all the spending on terrorism is (compared to it's cost) is debatable. One thing a rational person (not a politician) would take into account is the area affected by risks. Terrorism attacks are local events, asteroid impacts have continental/global effects - if the risk of getting killed by either are the same and only one risk can be reduced, I think a rational person should choose the latter. Of course that's a false dichotomy, there's noone saying you can't spend money on preventing both, but that's not what's being done. Loads of money is spent on preventing local disasters while the global ones waiting to happen are ignored.

However about those school shootings.. You cant really fight against it: this week here in Holland a guy in Breda said on the internet he would start a school shooting.. Fortunately they could prevent it.. But everybody who knows the guy said he was such a nice guy..So u cant really fight against it

Consider the possibility it actually is a nice guy and he made (very) inappropriate joke on the internet. It wouldn't be the first time someone with no sense of humour would be on the net...

[Blitzkrieg]

You can say what you want Peerpressure, giving stats that kids die sooner in traffic , and terroristic attacks happen more often.
But these School-Shootings are worst then a traffic accident if you ask me.

If a parent loses his kid in traffic accident they say:
'Oh my god , why did it happen to my kid'
If a parent loses his kid in a school-shooting they say :
'Why did that stupid kid went crazy and shot all those kids , he sucks , why did he do it, why it was on my kid's school , he's a maniac, he sucks ...

I think school shootings ar far more chaotic in the memories of the people that survived and the parents of the kids that died..

+ in Europe , Terroristic attacks are rare (let's hope it stays that way) but school shootings are coming closer to home I have to admit ..

would 9/11 be considered a traffic accident?

It was in a commercial vehicle that crashed into a non-moving object. Think of all the insurance money GWB's brother collected after that. He raised the coverage several months before hand. The explosions heard from below before the first plane hit. Let the 9/11 conspiracy theory live on!

[Anubiss]

okay... I'm kinda tired so I'm going to try and concentrate.
Someone said something about "counter-terrorism" being used to do other secret stuff... like control people's lives... and spy on them... and yes, that's very true. And with the recent times square incident, it's easy to see that it doesn't work very well; it's just a new way to enforce the government's dictatorship.

Someone else said, there's no way of stopping these school shootings, as they happen so randomly. This is also true, but look at it this way. These are troubled kids, whose minds tell them to "take a few with them" before they kill themselves. They're probably looking for recognition... "15 minutes of fame." Can't the same be said for "terrorist attacks"? Of course, "terrorists" have better reasons to do this, believe it or not, but in the end, it's all about taking as many peeps with you. This is about as easy to avoid as the school shootings; meaning it's darn near impossible.

This leaves the government with 2 major choices (there are many others out there too).
The first choice, which the USA and many other "developed" nations decide to take, is to increase police authority... which seems to be leading to invasion of privacy, increase in police brutality, and enforcement of whatever "democracy" exists in the current political system.
The second choice, which is very difficult, but ideal, is to understand the cultures of foreign countries halfway around the world, and not be blinded by greed for their resources. This is the way of peace: the way of understanding. Sadly, human beings, or any animals at that, come with violence and competition, thus this system can only be realistically run by highly developed or completely different aliens from outer space... for now.

Note that, the government has these choices; you are free to do whatever you like (the government might not want you to think this way, but you are). But freedom comes with responsibility, don't forget that.

Not to be critical, but when viewing "terrorism," you must set your emotions aside; the media only feeds us lies, what sells, and what the government tells them to feed us.


peace from the far east, Anubiss

[Anubiss]

oh, just noticed, so I'll add a tiny bit more.
Set your mind free... religion has a role in all this, but it's not all that big.
Most importantly, understand that a huge part of the general middle eastern distrust of Western culture originates from the foundation of Israel.
Did you know that America funds Israel more than all of Africa?
Did you know that Israeli soldiers kill innocent Palestinians using American supplied arms... payed for by US taxpayers?

What goes round, comes round... karma.
Think about it.